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I didn’t participate in this week’s HANDIhealth Tweetchat, but I’m always interested in what they’re saying, particularly since they are going to be running a workshop at the #Digihealthcon

This chat focused on:

Standards- are they a Barrier to Innovation?

Involved

Top resources

http://xkcd.com/927/
http://motorcycleguy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/starting-fhir-under-hl7.html
http://www.hl7.org.au/2012-HL7-Future-Seminar.htm
http://www.imedicalapps.com/2012/06/personal-health-record-patient-medical-terms/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/local-government-network/2012/jun/07/designing-digital-public-services-went-wrong?CMP=twt_gu
http://www.guardian.co.uk/healthcare-network/2012/jun/06/nhs-hack-day-apps-patient-hell
http://rallyroundme.com/welcome
http://www.video3uk.com/scotgov

Related tags

#openehr #fhir #nhshd #careapps #digihealthcon

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@ianmcnicoll The Usability Problem Pt 1: What the EMR Market Can Learn From Twitter http://t.co/9TkkYL5u #Handihealth #NHShackday >> in spades(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:07:35 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Are standards a barrier to innovation? Join us tonight to discuss. Follow the #handihealth hashtag between 8-9pm(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:34:44 +0100)
@HANDIhealth 60 mins until we begin our #handihealth chat tonight. Join us at 8pm to discuss ?Standards are a barrier to innovation?(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:03:42 +0100)
@Time4Recovery Personal Health Record app underscores importance of using patient friendly medical terms http://t.co/FDPxeP4a #mapsandapps #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:18:15 +0100)
@HANDIhealth 10 mins until we start the #handihealth chat. This week?s topic is ?Standards are a barrier to innovation: Discuss? Join us at 8(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:51:33 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Evening all and welcome to tonight?s #handihealth chat #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:01:18 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Tonight’s topic is Standards are a barrier to innovation: Discuss #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:02:00 +0100)
@hildegardfranke #handihealth Evening all(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:02:16 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Hi @hildegardfranke #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:03:17 +0100)
@robdykedotcom Shared this xkcd cartoon thousands of times http://t.co/XTok7TIF #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:03:19 +0100)
@mrcthompson @robdykedotcom love it! #handihealth I recall seeing this in one of the presenters slides at the newcastle event. so true(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:04:52 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Who else do have tonight? @ianmcnicoll ? #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:05:50 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth Hi all(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:06:10 +0100)
@HANDIhealth RT @robdykedotcom : Shared this xkcd cartoon thousands of times http://t.co/de9ayrPq #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:06:42 +0100)
@wylpf So what exactly do we mean by Standards in this context? #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:06:46 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Good evening. Shall we start by clarifying what we mean by standards? #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:07:13 +0100)
@hildegardfranke #handihealth we should probably narrow the statement a bit to say ‘imposed top down standards are a barrier to innovation’?(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:07:25 +0100)
@mrcthompson Are we talking about Health Information / Data Standards? #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:08:57 +0100)
@HANDIhealth @ianmcnicoll mentioned “top down stds can inhibit, emergent standards by consensus should not if done right” can you elaborate? #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:10:20 +0100)
@wylpf @hildegardfranke wouldn’t always agree with that. Knowing what to aim for by using a standard can be helpful #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:10:54 +0100)
@mrcthompson RT @robdykedotcom : Shared this xkcd cartoon thousands of times http://t.co/XTok7TIF #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:12:36 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth . If standards dev is agile and responsive + allows extensions, it should be poss to allow innovation. Kinda how web stds work(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:12:51 +0100)
@hildegardfranke @wylpf #handihealth I believe there is a difference between knowing what to aim for and having to comply with a standard imposed from above(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:13:00 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth the challege is on managing innovation and local variation whilst maintaining the best community consensus. Needs communication(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:14:33 +0100)
@HANDIhealth are there any models that can be learned from? #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:15:23 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth Managing clinical content stds as small, agile, rapidly iterated components (like apps) is the best approach. ‘Archetypes'(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:17:34 +0100)
@HANDIhealth RT @ianmcnicoll : Managing clinical content stds as small, agile, rapidly iterated components (like apps) is the best approach.. #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:18:59 +0100)
@wylpf @HANDIhealth @ianmcnicoll Are we talking the terminology standards here or messaging / storage standards? #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:20:36 +0100)
@Time4Recovery RT @robdykedotcom : Shared this xkcd cartoon thousands of times http://t.co/XTok7TIF #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:21:51 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth Terminology + content structure standards e.g. Allergy, Blood pressure. Not persistence though good if they can be(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:22:56 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth . Messaging std clearly necessary between business prtnrs but not essential to terminology / content stds.(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:24:46 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth technical interoperability is easy bit, and messaging is not a good way of definig semantics.(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:26:01 +0100)
@wylpf @ianmcnicoll hmm, I think a stable terminology standard (if its a good one) is better than an ever changing standard #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:27:36 +0100)
@hildegardfranke @wylpf #handihealth what do you mean by a ‘stable terminology standard’?(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:28:58 +0100)
@robdykedotcom RT @ianmcnicoll : #handihealth technical interoperability is easy bit, and messaging is not a good way of definig semantics.(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:30:01 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth eHealth stds are never stable, change inevitable. Agree we need as much stability as poss in both terminology/structure but ..(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:30:31 +0100)
@wylpf @hildegardfranke one who’s structure (but not necessarily content) is relatively fixed for example #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:31:04 +0100)
@robdykedotcom stds add value and lower barriers to development and innovation; and I like the way they stack up http://t.co/Mliw0B1o #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:31:36 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth “Innovation eats standards for breakfast” to borrow a phrase.(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:31:53 +0100)
@wylpf @ianmcnicoll very true, but innovation can break interoperability #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:34:22 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth OSI model works well for tech stds. Not so well for clinical content stds which r social constructs and need negotiated(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:34:26 +0100)
@hildegardfranke @wylpf #handihealth still not sure what you mean – can you give an example?(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:34:48 +0100)
@wylpf @ianmcnicoll a lot of recent app innovation is built using existing standards but only interoperable with itself #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:35:02 +0100)
@HANDIhealth RT @ianmcnicoll : #handihealth technical interoperability is easy bit, and messaging is not a good way of definig semantics. #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:36:14 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth @wylpf Absolutely agree. Apps will create silos but I think the right approach can help devs build shared content models(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:37:33 +0100)
@wylpf @hildegardfranke for example the drugs standard dm+d has been stable in terms of model since 2006 #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:38:04 +0100)
@robdykedotcom @wylpf @ianmcnicoll I’m happy with that; 3rd pty stuff (ESB, ETL, other middleware magic) fixes broken #interoperability #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:38:55 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth We think that #openEHR has cracked this problem of distributed content stds development, using web tools(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:39:03 +0100)
@wylpf @ianmcnicoll here’s hoping! Depends whether interoperability is a requirement out of the box, if not, silo apps are worth doinf #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:39:15 +0100)
@wylpf @hildegardfranke implementers like dm+d as they know the model and that its not likely to change #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:39:50 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth Yup dm+d is a good example of a sensible std to represent meds and allergy agents inside a medication or allergy structure.(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:40:12 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth was at a meeting in Edinb. yesterday where exactly that was agreed with Allergy structure based on GP2GP archetype + dm+d(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:41:18 +0100)
@HANDIhealth RT @ianmcnicoll : We think that #openEHR has cracked this problem of distributed content stds development, using web tools #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:41:27 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth dm+d also adopted as standard medication terminology (UK wide? ) but no common med structures yet.(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:05 +0100)
@griffglen #handihealth I suggested last week that loads of innovation might also be a barrier to the adoption of standards(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:34 +0100)
@robdykedotcom Designing digital public services: where we went wrong http://t.co/Tfbck3x4 via @guardian #handihealth great reflective piece(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:44:03 +0100)
@hildegardfranke @wylpf #handihealth yes, agree that dm+d is useful to implementers as a terminology standard(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:44:27 +0100)
@robdykedotcom #handihealth – last tweet not ‘on topic’, sorry(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:44:42 +0100)
@griffglen @HANDIhealth @ianmcnicoll what does open EHR directly compete with in the stds domain? #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:44:45 +0100)
@HANDIhealth RT @robdykedotcom : Designing digital public services: where we went wrong http://t.co/GRy4ORZy @guardian great reflective piece #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:46:02 +0100)
@wylpf @ianmcnicoll there are some standards around electronic prescriptions but different in England/Wales/Scotland etc 😦 #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:46:21 +0100)
@hildegardfranke @wylpf #handihealth exactly – and that’s the implementers nightmare(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:47:09 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth Traditionally #openEHR competes w HL7v3 and 13606 but times are changing as v3 not delivering as hoped http://t.co/vf4xBpUd (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:48:50 +0100)
@wylpf @hildegardfranke yup, you’re someone like Boots or Lloyds and you want to have one system across all sites…very hard to do! #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:50:19 +0100)
@griffglen @robdykedotcom #handihealth – good example of where a leader (Robert Metcalfe) encouraged vendors to club together 3Com Xerox and Banyan(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:50:38 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth yes – at least 8 different ways of expressing GP medication. That was reason for Meds stds workshop http://t.co/FWiSlHgI (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:53:13 +0100)
@hildegardfranke @wylpf #handihealth no, not 1 system, but an agreed way of expressing the same thing (e.g. prescribed medication) so it can be shared(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:53:26 +0100)
@HANDIhealth RT @ianmcnicoll : Traditionly #openEHR competes w HL7v3 & 13606 but time changing v3 nt delivering as hoped http://t.co/qwrJtHGN #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:55:07 +0100)
@wylpf @hildegardfranke sorry didn’t mean a single system across all, just say Boots using one system in all Boots stores #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:56:01 +0100)
@wylpf @hildegardfranke agree with not having a *single* system for everyone to use! #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:56:29 +0100)
@griffglen @HANDIhealth @ianmcnicoll #handihealth as a subset or superset – which way round? would the HL7 community see it that way too?(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:57:11 +0100)
@hildegardfranke @griffglen #handihealth subset or superset of what?(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:57:49 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth Hl7 community agreed that v3 is complex and not working – latest have thing is #FHIR http://t.co/wgI3dDaP more like archetypes(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:01:18 +0100)
@wylpf @ianmcnicoll going for the 80/20 split in terms of coverage. Probably a wise idea #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:03:02 +0100)
@griffglen @hildegardfranke #handihealth where is the overlap? are stds interchangeable? therefore interoperable(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:03:43 +0100)
@mrcthompson it was suggested at last chat that #handihealth provide a resource to educate on stds. I would love to see a concise overview of the stds.(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:04:26 +0100)
@HANDIhealth We’ve ran over a little on time tonight..& still lots to talk about. Shall we decide on next weeks topic over the coming week? #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:05:28 +0100)
@hildegardfranke RT @ianmcnicoll : @griffglen #openEHR archetypes are maiximally modelled so usually a superset of HL7 content and transformable #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:06:35 +0100)
@griffglen @hildegardfranke @ianmcnicoll #handihealth thks- my last tweet should have said operable rather than interoperable(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:08:58 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll @mrcthompson #handihealth ‘concise’ guide to ehelth stds might be tricky!! but I will give it a go. So many to choose from :-)(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:09:46 +0100)
@hildegardfranke RT @ianmcnicoll : @HANDIhealth I think leave choice of topic unless anyone has a good suggestion now #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:11:22 +0100)
@HANDIhealth OK, we can tweet for suggestions during the week… in the meantime, thanks everyone for taking part! #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:14:16 +0100)
@robdykedotcom @mrcthompson I don’t have a cartoon for ‘a concise view of stds’ #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:14:23 +0100)
@mrcthompson @robdykedotcom OK that can be my job – I’ll have a think 😉 #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:14:53 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll @robdykedotcom @mrcthompson Sadly I probably do 😦 #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:15:08 +0100)
@hildegardfranke #handihealth ciao everyone(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:15:08 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth Bye all, Thanks Chris(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:15:48 +0100)
@mrcthompson Goodnight all. Thanks. #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:16:57 +0100)
@HANDIhealth RT @ianmcnicoll : Hl7 community agreed that v3 is complex & nt working latest thing – #FHIR http://t.co/kxqAt7Jw like archetypes #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:20:27 +0100)
@griffglen @HANDIhealth @ianmcnicoll #handihealth interesting site – an ad hoc harley award sounds like it might be worth having(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:29:00 +0100)
@curtomil RT @ianmcnicoll : #handihealth Managing clinical content stds as small, agile, rapidly iterated components (like apps) is the best approach. ‘Archetypes'(Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:31:36 +0100)
@mrcthompson Looking for geeks who love the NHS http://t.co/QOOYaJjX #nhshd #handihealth (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:09:12 +0100)
@ppazos RT @ianmcnicoll : #handihealth Traditionally #openEHR competes w HL7v3 and 13606 but times are changing as v3 not delivering as hoped http://t.co/vf4xBpUd (Fri, 08 Jun 2012 07:27:15 +0100)
@claireOT Next up, the #handihealth guys, Tweetchats thurs 8-9pm, great people doing great stuff @HANDIhealth @WoodcoteEwan @robdykedotcom (Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:24:13 +0100)
@carlplant RT @HANDIhealth : http://t.co/3aTh0FrP To help someone stay independent longer #rallyroundme looks interesting #handihealth #careapps #digihealthcon #nhshd (Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:43:44 +0100)
@skoba RT @ianmcnicoll : #handihealth Hl7 community agreed that v3 is complex and not working – latest have thing is #FHIR http://t.co/wgI3dDaP more like archetypes(Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:41:10 +0100)
@skoba with openness. RT @ianmcnicoll : #handihealth #openEHR has cracked this problem of distributed content stds development, using web tools(Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:43:05 +0100)
@twhicher RT @ianmcnicoll : #handihealth Managing clinical content stds as small, agile, rapidly iterated components (like apps) is the best approach. ‘Archetypes'(Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:22:09 +0100)

It was great to catch up with some of the #HANDIhealth community in a Tweetchat on Thursday 31st May, where we discussed the recent and hugely successful #NHShackday.

We asked where to next with this form of innovation, and wondered, has the time now come for our new style of innovation to be brought into the mainstream of service design in our health services?

Involved

Top resources

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture-professionals-network/culture-professionals-blog/2012/may/28/prototyping-replaces-policy-arts-culture
http://www.openbnf.org/
http://digihealthcon.eventbrite.co.uk
http://digihealthhack.eventbrite.co.uk
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/31/linkedin_closed_apis/
http://www.ehi.co.uk/video/ehi-tv/?vid_id=128&type=EHITV&title=handi-for-health-apps
http://wiki.nhshackday.com/wiki/Who

Related tags

#nhshackday #digihealthhack #digihealthcon #nhshackdays #nhshd

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@HANDIhealth 10 mins to go until chat time! Fill your cups/ mugs /glasses.. #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 19:52:13 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Evening all and welcome to tonight?s #handihealth chat #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:00:35 +0100)
@claireOT @HANDIhealth evening everyone! Just going to observe tonight’s chat, but really impressed by all the cool stuff at #nhshackday #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:01:59 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Hi @claireOT welcome! Please join in… #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:03:03 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Who do we have here tonight, say hi #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:03:43 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Sounds like the first #NHShackday was an overwhelming success and seems to be getting some good press #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:05:15 +0100)
@dunmailh Hi! Dunmail from @BlackPearSw here – interested to hear what happened at #nhshackday #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:05:33 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Hi @dunmailh welcome. #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:06:17 +0100)
@HANDIhealth I think that it demonstrated what small agile self organising teams can achieve #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:07:20 +0100)
@BlackPearSw Hi all, Tiff from @BlackPearSw also here. #handihealth #Handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:07:44 +0100)
@dunmailh Sounds good – was there a good mix of clinicians and devs? #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:10:13 +0100)
@HANDIhealth @claireOT did you attend the #nhshackday ?
#handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:10:32 +0100)
@mrcthompson Hopefully the #nhshackday will get the attention of the decision makers and show that this is a better model #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:12:17 +0100)
@HANDIhealth @dunmailh , there are other #nhshackdays planned for Liverpool and Oxford #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:13:49 +0100)
@dunmailh @HANDIhealth We’re waiting for Newcastle or Edinburgh! 🙂 #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:15:10 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Yes me too! Would be great to get these hackdays all over #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:16:06 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Did you see any of the submissions? OpenBNF looks interesting http://t.co/EmEqjbxB #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:16:30 +0100)
@claireOT @HANDIhealth ‘fraid not, but watched online with great interest, especially to pick up tips for the #digihealthhack ! #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:17:03 +0100)
@dunmailh @mrcthompson Do you think we’ll need some ‘big’ projects to build infrastructure to underpin ‘hacker’ projects? #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:17:27 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon Hi @HANDIhealth this is the #Digihealthcon and #digihealthhack account, run by @claireOT , checking in! #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:17:57 +0100)
@vgul RT @HANDIhealth : Did you see any of the submissions? OpenBNF looks interesting http://t.co/EmEqjbxB #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:18:22 +0100)
@BlackPearSw @claireOT According to the wiki for #nhshackdays , Ewan Davis @WoodcoteEwan was there: http://t.co/zTHMaRT8 #Handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:18:29 +0100)
@mrcthompson @dunmailh I’m not so sure. Some of the smaller projects can still get noticed if you can demonstrate value in 2 days #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:19:14 +0100)
@HANDIhealth With these hackdays getting more attention, I wonder if there is a danger that they will become more formalised #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:19:47 +0100)
@claireOT @BlackPearSw thanks! Yes, I met @woodcoteewan at the #handihealth workshop yesterday in London *waves* @HANDIhealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:19:49 +0100)
@mrcthompson I think part of the beauty of these hack days is that they’re voluntary – so you get passionate people involved. #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:22:44 +0100)
@dunmailh @mrcthompson It’s definitely a great platform to test ideas and innovate. Trying to work out how it scales to the real world. #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:24:19 +0100)
@dunmailh @mrcthompson Have you had any joy in getting ideas adopted after proving the concepts? #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:25:17 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon hiya @dunmailh and Tiff! @blackpearsw have you been to a #handihealth event yet?(Thu, 31 May 2012 20:27:44 +0100)
@HANDIhealth @DigiHealthCon what is the difference between the #digihealthhack and #nhshackday – will it be the same format? #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:27:56 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon ? @mrcthompson : Hopefully the #nhshackday will get the attention of the decision makers and show that this is a better model #handihealth ? !!(Thu, 31 May 2012 20:28:10 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @mrcthompson certainly this model can produce great results very efficiently! #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:28:47 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @mrcthompson you can still register for the #digihealthhack in Leeds, 30th June, see http://t.co/o5MgFkAp @dunmailh #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:29:51 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @HANDIhealth no, there are some differences. #nhshackday was very clearly for open source dev of ideas for use in the nhs #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:30:36 +0100)
@mrcthompson @DigiHealthCon my concern is that it becomes formalised? “red-taped” I think that it works well because its informal and agile #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:31:41 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @HANDIhealth but we will have a coding work stream at the #digihealthhack for anyone wishing to work in this way #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:31:48 +0100)
@mrcthompson @DigiHealthCon @dunmailh I think I will do that, I’m at NTI that week anyway so might stay and extra day 🙂 #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:32:17 +0100)
@BlackPearSw @DigiHealthCon @dunmailh Yes, we went to the Newcastle event – found it really productive #Handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:32:22 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @mrcthompson absolutely! But communities built around these days, like #nhshackday , #handihealth or #digihealthhack can work outside formal(Thu, 31 May 2012 20:32:53 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @mrcthompson yay! The #digihealthhack is at OBH, and @lindabroughton of NTI is involved #handihealth #smallworld @dunmailh (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:34:14 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @BlackPearSw yes, I ( @claireot ) was at the London workshop yesterday #handihealth @dunmailh (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:35:06 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @mrcthompson if you want to come to the #Digihealthcon the day before, it will include work on the successor to #mapsandapps #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:36:21 +0100)
@mrcthompson @DigiHealthCon It fills ME with dread to think of a hack day with Prince2 project management O_o #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:36:29 +0100)
@HANDIhealth RT @griffglen : There will be tons of hack days – each university dept around UK is likely not to want to miss out #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:36:56 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @mrcthompson and a workshop by @HANDIhealth too! #handihealth #digihealthcon http://t.co/nshRG7IQ (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:37:06 +0100)
@dunmailh @mrcthompson Guess we need to get @NetworkLouIse to organise a hack day for the NE! #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:37:12 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon By the way, @HANDIhealth folks, if you want to come to the #Digihealthcon , email me- subsidised “scholarship” ticket at �70 #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:38:30 +0100)
@mrcthompson RT @dunmailh : @mrcthompson Guess we need to get @NetworkLouIse to organise a hack day for the NE! #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:38:33 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @griffglen @mrcthompson yes- let’s share the madness! And grow the community, the more the better! #handihealth #digihealthhack (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:39:19 +0100)
@HANDIhealth So what now for the projects that were submitted to the #nhshackday ? #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:40:08 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon I never want young start-up folks to feel � excluded from our events- always worth emailing me if this is you! #handihealth #digihealthhack (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:40:48 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon And of course the #digihealthhack is free to attend, it’s the #Digihealthcon that needs a paid-for ticket #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:41:22 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @HANDIhealth there was a bit of discussion of this on the #nhshackday google group #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:42:03 +0100)
@HANDIhealth the OpenBNF team are taking their app to the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain to see how they can collaborate. #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:42:11 +0100)
@BlackPearSw @mrcthompson Prince2?? There’d have to be a change control board just to decide what drink to have in the break. #Handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:42:59 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon RT @mrcthompson : @DigiHealthCon It fills ME with dread to think of a hack day with Prince2 project management O_o #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:44:14 +0100)
@mrcthompson @griffglen @digihealthcon for sure, I agree. But i don’t think that P2 is right for something as agile as a hackday. now SCRUM #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:44:16 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @mrcthompson @griffglen @BlackPearSw did you guys see this? http://t.co/4C9LebDt #handihealth it explains our ideas quite well, I think(Thu, 31 May 2012 20:47:06 +0100)
@BlackPearSw @mrcthompson @griffglen @digihealthcon Agile project management keeps focus on delivering value #Handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:47:37 +0100)
@WoodcoteEwan #HANDIhealth Facilitated as it happens by HANDI(Thu, 31 May 2012 20:48:59 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Could prototyping be the new policy http://t.co/MeYf5u8p /via @claireOT #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:51:24 +0100)
@HANDIhealth #handihealth Hack Days are about hacking.No formal PM even scrums last days. BUT you do need PM to move to production quality(Thu, 31 May 2012 20:51:24 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon Are any of the #nhshackday crew here tonight? @colinwren @robdykedotcom #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:51:26 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon RT @HANDIhealth : #handihealth Hack Days are about hacking.No formal PM even scrums last days. BUT you do need PM to move to production quality(Thu, 31 May 2012 20:51:41 +0100)
@WoodcoteEwan #handihealth Well I was there but supporting rather than hacking(Thu, 31 May 2012 20:52:33 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @HANDIhealth I think perhaps the PM could become useful after the #hack , if you want to get the dev. in use? #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:52:54 +0100)
@dunmailh @DigiHealthCon : did you guys see this? http://t.co/QWeZE8yp All of our most successful projects have used prototyping … #Handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:53:51 +0100)
@WoodcoteEwan @DigiHealthCon @HANDIhealth Yes, Good PM is good, but too often becomes end in itself #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:54:33 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @dunmailh yeah, i did see it! Did you see he gave the #digihealthhack a shout out? #soproud #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:55:27 +0100)
@WoodcoteEwan #handihealth did you see my tweets this morning about #miconsent @woodcoteewan (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:56:12 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @griffglen could you expand a little on that, please? #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:58:01 +0100)
@mrcthompson @woodcoteewan I saw a miconsent tweet but I couldn’t find much more info about the project.. #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:59:44 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon @WoodcoteEwan it looks like a great project- very similar to @idiopathic ‘s Patients Know Best, though? #handihealth @miconsent (Thu, 31 May 2012 20:59:55 +0100)
@WoodcoteEwan @mrcthompson They tell me web site will be up in about a week #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:00:45 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon Guys, I’ve got to dash, but lovely to chat with you #handihealth , I’m loving this community of health/tech folks!(Thu, 31 May 2012 21:01:19 +0100)
@WoodcoteEwan @DigiHealthCon #handihealth yes good to meet you at London workshop(Thu, 31 May 2012 21:02:00 +0100)
@DigiHealthCon Do check out our blog, and register for the #digihealthhack and #Digihealthcon , or follow online on 29th 30th June #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:02:29 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Thanks for joining us tonight @DigiHealthCon same time next week 🙂 #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:03:36 +0100)
@HANDIhealth We’ve ran over a little tonight.. so can we get some ideas for next weeks chat? #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:04:47 +0100)
@HANDIhealth I think that we only scratched the surface of Standards last week. Project management has featured a lot tonight also… #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:08:34 +0100)
@WoodcoteEwan #HANDIhealth “standards are a barrier to innovation” discuss?(Thu, 31 May 2012 21:09:46 +0100)
@HANDIhealth Sounds like a lively topic to me. Lets make it so. Next week 8-9pm “Standards are a barrier to innovation” Discuss #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:11:48 +0100)
@HANDIhealth It was great chatting – thanks to all who took part. #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:13:30 +0100)
@HANDIhealth I’ll get a summary and transcript written up and hopefully get it published on the website soon. @networklouise ? #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:15:00 +0100)
@HANDIhealth @griffglen very good point, lets bring that to the chat next week too. #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:17:12 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll RT @WoodcoteEwan : #HANDIhealth “standards are a barrier to innovation” discuss?(Thu, 31 May 2012 21:36:45 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll @WoodcoteEwan #handihealth top down standards can inhibit, emergent standards by consensus shold not if done right.(Thu, 31 May 2012 21:38:40 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll #handihealth sorry I missed the party. Fighting the accursed network of rail and it’s attendant demons(Thu, 31 May 2012 21:41:19 +0100)
@HANDIhealth @ianmcnicoll maybe next week? Should be a good one too. Standards Vs Innovation #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:54:44 +0100)
@h2cm RT @HANDIhealth : So what now for the projects that were submitted to the #nhshackday ? #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 21:57:21 +0100)
@HANDIhealth @JuliaHCox Nothing to do with #handihealth some of us just at #nhshd but not on this project that used https://t.co/DC9DUwqH to get data(Thu, 31 May 2012 22:05:45 +0100)
@WoodcoteEwan see me on EHI TV http://t.co/Y1q0b0cl #handihealth #ohdear (Thu, 31 May 2012 22:08:19 +0100)
@FarmerFunster He’s onto something! : RT @HANDIhealth : Could prototyping be the new policy http://t.co/WCgml4v0 by @danmcquillan via @claireOT #handihealth (Thu, 31 May 2012 23:34:43 +0100)
@ianmcnicoll Open API lessons for LinkedIn and Facebook http://t.co/Zk9nyOXi #handihealth #nhshackday >> Worth reading the comments …(Thu, 31 May 2012 23:36:35 +0100)